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The Five Fold Tier Of Prophetic Interpretation.
Deana explains how special anointings and giftings from out of the fivefold ministry, (mentioned in Ephesians 4) impact variation in prophetic interpretation.
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What airplanes and automobiles mean in dreams. Dreams: Appointments, Flights, and Automobiles
What Dream Interpretation Looks Like.
Dreamer wrote: Tonight I dreamed that I was getting in a car with one of my elderly church minsters to catch a flight to Japan, the car was full after *Mrs.[Name means grace] got in so I went back inside the house to have someone drive me. Once back inside I had to keep climbing out of windows to get out. I was surrounded by my Pastor and church members encouraging me to go out the windows. There were several windows.
Once outside my sister and youngest daughter were getting ready to take me, we pass Mrs. —– [ name means grace ] car (same make as her car now but older) and my sister locks it, then she says she needs to get gas, the car we were getting into was at the gas pump. I say worriedly that I was going to miss my flight, I wake up as we were getting in the car. In both dreams my youngest daughter is with me.
Dear one, this is a dream coaching, and teaching segment. Airplanes and Automobiles
When we have a flight to catch we have an appointment to make that will move us forward in rapid succession once we get there. This type of progression requires connections, and are time sensitive. They also include a body of like travelers with the same destination. You have an appointment, a flight, a journey, and destination that includes, or will benefit you and your daughter. What does Japan mean to you? It is the land of the rising sun. In this dream none of the cars are in your control. Simply said, they are in the control of others. In fact, those who have control of these vehicles are not in tune to your sense of urgency. They can encourage you, they can point in the direction you need to go. But, all the vehicles involved are not dedicated to your destination. There are priorities that over ride yours, they have to do with the lives of others.
Cars are owned by individuals, and possessed by families. They are the instrument that moves us forward in our own lives.
Everyone should have their own. What is this, spiritually? It is a driving support that best fits your needs to get you to your appointments and destiny. As long as some one else other than Jesus, or you, is in the driver’s seat to where you are needing to go in life, then that destination that is uniquely yours, will not be the number one priority. Especially, if no one is sharing a common goal, or passion.
Your needs were not the priority, in the first car, the needs of the church mother and her destination was, this is a fellowship that may not be called to get you there. In fact those in the car made room for grace, but had no room for you. This vehicle is fine, grace is in it. But, this arrangement is causing delay for you. Are you being equipped for your destination in Christ?
If not this is no ones fault; but, is outlining the dynamics that are not in your favor for God’s destiny in your life, and it is your responsibility to begin seeking the Lord, on how to acquire the knowledge and wisdom you need in order to meet appointments and destinations, that God has lined up for you. This is personal responsibility that you will have to give account for. We can’t say to God, “Well, no one let me, no one gave me an opportunity, no one took up my cause.” With God all things are possible for us.
We ought to obey God rather than man, and we ought not to wait for others to embrace concern for our appointments and destinations. We have to give an account for what we do, or do not do, in this life time in obeying what the Father has called us to do. In this dream these vehicles are not working in your favor, because you are believing that your church and family are going to get you there; but, God himself through the power of the Holy Spirit is the only one who can.
Your church is teaching you how to move forward through the frame work of the prophetic, this is seeing what is next, (windows) and having revelation to move forward, which is great, still you get into your family member’s vehicle, her passion and course needs more fuel to get YOU where you need to go, but you are running out of time, and the other car you see that is now an older model, is not even an option. It is locked to you. Marking a passage of time and present relevance, where grace is no longer even in it. This may refer to something you tried before that you thought would get you where you needed to go, but it didn’t pan out. Now, it is not even close.
The dream is revealing that you have been a passenger waiting on others to help you make your flight. That you need a vehicle purposed for you, alone, to make your appointments.
You can engage a dream you don’t completely understand by using the dream language. You can begin to pray and ask the Lord to purpose operatives, on your behalf that will get you where you need to go right on time. Pray in your personal means of support to transport you into your destiny, in Christ. What you need to hear, what revelation you need to walk in, the grace that will carry YOU.
Your immediate connections are not getting you there; however, the Holy Spirit, will be our personal escort. This doesn’t mean your sister doesn’t have a part in it, but may need your prayers to get you there on time. In fact, it could mean that you need everyone involved to have revelation concerning you, so let the Lord minister the truth in this matter to you. Pushing and pulling people to see it our way is never the answer. God reveals and God conceals.
We love these people, but we must work out our own salvation, with fear and trembling. Prayer for all involved will ensure God’s will. -God bless Dee.
*Not always, but often, the etymology of a name is a key to a dream rather than the person themselves.
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NEW: David and Deana discuss a dream that has had a profound impact on their life, and is warning others in this podcast: Tossing A Rattler.
We have clothing we wear for work, business, and play. Think about it, what we have on is what we are ready for, or what we are not ready for! Our dreams reveal hidden conditions of our soul we need to pay attention to. Listen to:
The following excerpt is from a real dream. I cover some of its interpretation in the following article while addressing color, and the importance of what we are wearing in prophetic dreams or visions. If we can remember color, and clothing, when we wake up from our dreams then they have significance. Sometimes, as dreams are, unusual occurrences take place that may seem silly. But, if the dream has merit, as this one most certainly does, then we need to look at the unusual symbolism, and decode them because they occur for a reason. The entirety of this dream and its interpretation is found under What Interpreted Dreams Look Like, in the header above.
Dream: “…He saw himself dressed in all black sitting on a boulder. It was all black around him … a ball of lint laying beside him spoke to him saying, “Jesus wants to talk to you, stay where you are,” He had his back to the lord. he feels comfort flowing threw his body & knows it is Jesus who wants to talk to him.” (This dreamer is always wearing black in his dreams, of late.)
The color of clothing and their type is detail that should always be written down when we are journaling our dreams.
What we are dressed in is subject to change, depending on what we are doing and the seasons we are in. What we are wearing changes only when we decide to change our clothes. If we want we can wear shorts in the winter, or a coat in the summer; but, we make choices that best suites us and/ or is reflective of our environment, this includes what we are doing, as well. (Working in the garden, going to a party; attending a funeral, or wedding.) The colors in the back drop of a dream is often representative of mood. What we are wearing reflects an emotional or spiritual condition that details more prophetic understanding regarding our occupation, our social interactions, our rest, and recreation.
Earth, water, soil, vegetation and the sun all reflect colors that are representative of their elements. Browns are earthy and speak matters that tend to be earthy. Adam was made of the dust of the ground. It speaks of the flesh, or of those things that are of the flesh. A dirt road is our natural walk in this earth, brown clothes, often the same. Blue is representative of the sky, and is more heavenly, etc.
Often, when people see themselves or someone else wearing black it represents sorrow, mourning, heaviness, famine, lack, or sin. What the person is doing in the dream gives context to the mood, and their emotional condition. The key is that clothing can be taken off and replaced with another wardrobe, therefore their condition is subject to change. It takes intent and the will to change. Sin, sickness, sorrow, famine, and disease are all remedied by seeking the one who is our life. Jesus died that we might live, He was beaten with many stripes that we may be healed. Thirst and famine of soul and body is remedied through Him. Jesus feeds our soul He is the bread of life, the Father provides for His sons and His daughters. Doubt, fear, and unbelief; even a famine of the Word of God, clothes us in lack. This is depicted in black. We can put off all of these things by pressing on in CHRIST. When we are wearing black in our dreams our garment, normally, is in need of change.
If we do not trust the Lord in everything, if we see our condition as lacking, then we tend to turn away from God, we need to believe in the full work of the cross, that all our short comings are truly washed by the blood. With out faith it is impossible to please God. Still, in our place where we fall short he speaks to us, in our doubts, fears, and troubled hearts. While we were yet sinners Christ died for us, how much more in this life time will HE reach out to us, in our need for Him. Even when our back is turned away from HIS best for us, he desires to minister love and comfort. The Lord desires to show HIS more perfect way in all matters concerning the man or woman who knows he/she needs God.
A broken and contrite heart, oh lord, thou will not despise.
The Lord wants all of us to have faith in a clear conscience and stand up in our authority in CHRIST pushing back the circumstances that often overwhelm us. We begin doing that by putting on the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness. This an act of our will, and choice. Simply, we can say that as a decree out loud. “I put on the garment of praise, I will dress my self in joy. Who’s report will I believe regarding my future? I will believe in the report of the Lord. Though there be Giants in the land of my promise, the son of David has slain them.
Isaiah 52: Wake up, wake up, O Zion! Clothe yourself with strength. Put on your beautiful clothes, O holy city of Jerusalem, for unclean and godless people will enter your gates no longer.
The garment of praise (made to replace the spirit of mourning, sorrow, heaviness, sin awareness, famine) is so powerful even the lint … (the dust remnants of that garment) is able to speak to us encouragement and instruction. Calling us to return to the joy of our salvation, a voice bringing hope in our sorrows.
Isaiah 61:3: to appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.
Black as famine (Jeremiah 14:1 – 2, Lamentations 5:10), mourning and sorrow (Job 30:28, 30, Jeremiah 8:21, 14:2), lack of revelation (spiritual light) from God (Micah 3:6). (Jude 13) meaning blocked from light.
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New King James Version (NKJV)
But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk are drunk at night. But let us who are of the day be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and as a helmet the hope of salvation. For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, that whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.
Therefore comfort each other and edify one another, just as you also are doing.
I was in the market place and went to take an elevator to get to another floor. When the doors opened and I was just about to step in, it shocked me to discover there was nothing there but an open shaft, and cables. I was struck by how easily I COULD HAVE fallen into this open shaft. The first thing I thought of was the people who would not be careful to look, as I did, before stepping in. I went back to those whom I was standing with prior, and warned them of the elevator. We all stood and watched again as the elevator doors opened wide, this time the carriage was misaligned and tipped, leaving a gap wide enough to fall through. Strangely, there were those still enticed to get on board anyway, knowing the elevator was broken, taking the chance that it wouldn’t plunge downward while they were in it. I thought to go to the central desk of this international discount store, where it could be better broadcasted that the condition of the elevator was dangerous, while the group above watched the shaft.
Getting to the central office seemed cumbersome and I had to go through a lot of effort just to get to the front desk. I hoped and prayed no one would plunge down the broken elevator shaft, before I could get there. Thankful, for those who were standing watch, I worried of their due diligence in warning the patrons on other floors. Finally, in reaching the central service center where there was a line, I realized that I was going to have to move to the front of the line, to get out my warning. As I began doing so I was explaining to the front counter, ( and those in line) about the elevator, the front desk manager reached for the main phone to contact central management. But, as I began to speak a Christian woman walked up to me who had nothing to do with the desk, and postured herself to address the situation under a false authority, motivated by a theological position, rather than the Spirit of God. She immediately began to play down the sense of urgency by addressing the warning as fear, discarding it because it wasn’t a positive word; but, rather, I was speaking death. I knew this woman was out of order, and seriously misguided. Still, she had a presence about her, and a boldness. But, what alarmed me the most was that even though the message was clear and precise, the desk personnel stepped back from the intercom, confused; with a hint of embarrassment in her face that she had begun to respond to my initial warning.
And yes, you guessed it. This was a dream.
Dream continued: The atmosphere changed and it seemed as if all reason bowed to the illusion that this woman’s counter posture against the sound of alarm, bore a reasonable reaction. All motion toward alerting shoppers, and rendering them directives around the broken elevator, while dispatching maintenance, became suspended. I remember looking around the room amazed how she neutralized the urgency of the warning, while interrupting the natural protocol needed to avoid a potential disaster. Can you imagine an elevator like that broken, with out being put out of order? No yellow tape, no orange cones? No maintenance, or repair being assigned to it? The dream outlined the lunacy of reacting that way to a clear and present danger. Even the liability concerns of those in charge to alert maintenance. But, no one did anything. Yet, this kind of reaction to prophetic words and ministries called to blow the trumpet in Zion, is carried out every day.
Indicators, Regulators, And Soothsayers.
(Putting aside the dreams dual references of misalignments, including what is taking place in the market place. And the potential ramification of those that are still trying to board an obvious disaster hanging on a thread … ) I came away from the dream with a more pressing concern, however, and that was how to convince those who have the power to save lives now, not listen to the soothsayers of our times. I knew this character in the dream was presenting the fallacy of an error that stemmed from false teaching on the office of a prophet, and what the mercy of God truly looks, and sounds like. Even how the positive confession era has created an imbalance among many. Displacing common sense in many prophetic circles. (This parallels with the elevator scene where a man is trying to board a seriously misaligned car in a shaft where he could be terribly injured. A clear and precise word is required in a split second with no time to couch the issue, such as “STOP or you will DIE!” Is that not a positive word? How about this one- “Your sins are forgiven, go and sin no more, less a worse thing COME UPON YOU!” Certainly, we are swinging back from the pendulum where words of warning described the disaster, but not the directives to avoid it, or the wisdom to walk through it. Leaving, the receiver under a cloud of fear and even torment. This is not the heart of the Father. His dealings with men are forever seeking to lead us to repentance.
Political Peer Pressure
We need to understand the value of what true prophetic ministry is. Oddly, present in the dream was an atmosphere- a peer pressure of sorts, where sounding off the alarm could potentially make one appear foolish, and this, also, over ruled the good judgement of those in charge of managing crisis. The fact of the matter was her attempt to put forth a false sense of security, while dowsing the impact of the voice of alarm, immediately, aligned herself in judgement of those WATCHMEN who would NOT sound the alarm to warn the people when disaster is imminent. A cable holding up the MISALIGNED elevator car, (that is suppose to facilitate safe departure and arrivals), is about to suffer a catastrophic failure. Woe to those who cry, Peace! Peace! For sudden destruction shall come upon them. Woe to those who are manipulating common sense responses to crisis in order to create a false sense of security! Woe, to those regarding prophetic warning; who muddy the waters of clear and concise prophetic detail, to give it a positive spin.
1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
For those who guide this people are leading them astray; And those who are guided by them are brought to confusion.…
They say to the seers, “See no more visions!” and to the prophets, “Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. “Peace, peace,” they say, when there is no peace.
But I said, “Alas, Sovereign LORD! The prophets keep telling them, ‘You will not see the sword or suffer famine. Indeed, I will give you lasting peace in this place.'”
“‘Because they lead my people astray, saying, “Peace,” when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,
This is what the LORD says: “As for the prophets who lead my people astray, they proclaim ‘peace’ if they have something to eat, but prepare to wage war against anyone who refuses to feed them.
For those who have experienced this kind of boldness to shut down the spirit of the voice of alarm, in a mission to save lives, know that our responsibility to prevail with the warning is not lifted. For if they HEAR, and do not respond, we’re not responsible. But if the warning is dampened or hampered it is still for the watchmen to press on and persevere. We see how Paul did this in the passage below but first let’s remember, many of the prophets were threatened, beaten, incarcerated, driven out of regions for their sound of alarm. That spirit that declares peace in lue of warning, is in bed with Anti Christ, false prophets, Jezebel, Ahab; the foolish servant, and if nothing more is a FEAR FILLED Christian who does not understanding that the mercy of God is present in warning, correction, and rebuke, as well as a form of strengthening, and edification of the saints. Certainly, our words should be full of life, but many in the body misunderstand the dynamics that sustain and strengthen Kingdom life.
Identifying a breach in the wall, is commendable in most vocations, and approaching those where that message will be most effective, makes sense. Of course, it would be blocked off as any breach would with special attention, and inspected, with inquiries to why it failed. Warnings in evangelism through out history have moved many to repentance, it is mercy that exposes our hearts, so that we will not die in our sin. Pronouncements of judgements with out either an opportunity to repent or instructions to do so, is not the heart of the Father. In the new testament, in the acts of the saints, we see occasions where confrontations occur and hard words are spoken.
We have the account of Peter’s dealing with Ananias and Sapphira who lied to the Holy Ghost, and Simon, who thought to purchase Him. A firm warning to the readers that we are not to grieve the Holy Spirit, or lie to him. These dealings are no less critical now than they were in the beginning. This is why I warn those now who would posture themselves over words of the prophets of God, to dilute their impact, or divert their intent- If they succeed and lives are lost, the blood will be on their hands. Warnings, through the Spirit, in there nature are acts of mercy, pronounced judgements with instructions for repentance, the same. We see that in the delayed judgement of Nineveh that saved a whole generation, in the story of Jonah.
Jesus said to preach repentance for the forgiveness of sins, in His name, to all nations. Luke 24:47
Now we see how Paul dealt with someone who was a Jew and called a prophet; but, in this passage was identified as a false prophet. In some translations a sorcerer. Many do not realize that operating in the flesh is operating in witchcraft because witchcraft is called a work of the flesh. Therefore, meddling with the Holy Ghost ministry under the guise of prophetic ministry, is deemed as sorcery according to scripture. In this dream this woman was acting out in the flesh. The following is how NEW TESTAMENT apostolic ministry dealt with in-house sorcery.
Acts 8:20-25 New International Version (NIV)
So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus. When they arrived at Salamis, they proclaimed the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews. And they had John to assist them. When they had gone through the whole island as far as Paphos, they came upon a certain magician, a Jewish false prophet named Bar-Jesus. He was with the proconsul, Sergius Paulus, a man of intelligence, who summoned Barnabas and Saul and sought to hear the word of God, but, Elymas the magician (for that is the meaning of his name) opposed them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. But, Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him and said, “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you will be blind and unable to see the sun for a time.” Immediately mist and darkness fell upon him, and he went about seeking people to lead him by the hand. Then the proconsul believed, when he saw what had occurred, for he was astonished at the teaching of the Lord.
Notice how this very powerful occurrence upon the word of Paul, immediately coming to pass, acted as a sign to the proconsul? We will discuss amazing accuracy upon the word of the prophets, later. But, keep this demonstration or “sign” in mind.
Simon the ex sorcerer, attached himself to the apostolic ministry of Peter, after he believes; but, makes a serious mistake when mishandling the subject of the Holy Spirit, by asking to purchase the Holy Ghost! … More reasons not to grieve God, in those things pertaining to His Holy Spirit and giftings; but, look here, Peter had a WORD for this man, and it scared him into a sobriety that may have saved his soul. But I wonder, in some of these prophetic climates today would such a “WORD” be received? Or, for that matter would such a word dare to be given?
Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord in the hope that he may forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin. “Then Simon answered, “Pray to the Lord for me so that nothing you have said may happen to me.”After they had further proclaimed the word of the Lord and testified about Jesus, Peter and John returned to Jerusalem, preaching the gospel in many Samaritan village.
Still, it is our responsibility to let the prophets speak and the others stand and judge. We do this in our assemblies, in our meetings, should the word of prophecy be handled with any less care in the internet market place, that is increasingly being used as a tool of ministry? As believers, self governing in these issues will please God, contrarily, wilfulness and recklessness, will not. In fact, what we do or undo in relation to His prophetic word, will be examined, and we will be made accountable on how we handled or mis handled, even, the Word of Life, in all true prophecy. For the REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST is the SPIRIT of PROPHECY. Now back to IMPROVE, BUILDING UP, ESTABLISHING, and EDIFICATION. WE who are of the day are not appointed to wrath! Yet, we are reminded to stay awake and alert. To watch and pray. To make ourselves ready!
So, who does this? Is it not the watchmen of the night who sound the alarm? What would become of those who cried peace in the day of wrath? Sudden destruction shall come upon them. Again, let me point out three of those words that define edification. TO IMPROVE. Do we not remove waste when we are improving? TO BUILD. Do we not clear the ground of roots and rocks when we lay a foundation? TO ESTABLISH! Once the building is built how shall it remain?
Lions Tigers and Bears
I was in property management for many years and one of my duties was to oversee the building and property maintenance. To see to it that structures were regularly examined, maintained, and repaired. That elevators had updated permits, and safety checks, properly licensed for use. Clearly witnessing what materials are good and for the edification of a structure, and what is not. Cheap material and sloppy repairs NEVER work for the long haul; although, cosmetically, they may get you by for a season. This is reflective of those who always have a positive message, but no substance. The material is easy to come by and cheap, but has no enduring value. Untempered mortar. To improve, edify, build up, and establish; also, involves removing the broken, to replace the new- and you can ask a plumber about the messiness of some of these jobs that require the removal of debris, first, before repairs ensue. In fact, many chronic problems would warrant a complete revamp with new materials, updates, and remodels. This is Kingdom building and the tearing down of the old along with its removal, is all for the edification of the saints. It requires all of this to improve, build up, and “edify”. This takes skill, and requires the workings of the five fold ministry to accomplish a complete revamp. No one wants unskilled labor to remodel their home. Neither does God. Each anointing has its responsibility to accomplish that work. Even a visionary sees what has to go before he SEES what will replace it, those things are skillfully communicated, by those who stand and judge. This is why every word should have a prophetic conference to discern its timing and to activate, appropriately, its levels of realization. That is why the Lord, warned me to beware of the foulers, dowsers, disclaimers, and the distractors, of prophetic flows. The fouler poisons the original intent of the word given, by quickly introducing a counter thought, the dowsers will quench its fire because of the strength of the word, they will attempt to “cool it down” for the luke warm seeking pallet. This modifies the word’s impact, and meddles with God’s original intent for the word or warning. I’m not speaking of those who run around screaming the wolves are coming- out of conjecture, that certain things are about to happen, by watching natural events unfold- I am talking about prophetic ministry that receives news headlines from the Spirit of God. Fight or flight, build or tear down, the Church should be ahead of what is real and what is rumor.
This is why it is dangerous to be this woman depicted in the dream, she promotes soothe saying and frustrates prophetic warning and sways administrations to disobey true spiritual authority, this can only be our age old enemy, Jezebel. The “disclaimer” of prophetic warning immediately begins to reverse the momentum of impact. The “distractors” will often be the ones who quickly raise up controversy, again, to misdirect the flow of the word in order to bury it.
Beware of SEED THIEVES! We are called to be vessels of the DOVE not keeper of THE CROWS.
Think about it like this- when you hear a prophetic warning because the WORD OF GOD is like a seed sown into the ground. What fruit will it potentially bear in the good soil of our hearts? The Lord once showed me that a man and his son would begin to suffer consequences of the lack of faith that was being spoken over their circumstances. That there would be a death of that which should be a blessing, in their lives. They changed their habit and all is well. What if they decided to not respond, because I pronounced a warning of death? You see, the word given to them to speak life over their circumstance went unheeded, and after awhile the fruit of the mouth (life or death is in the power of the tongue) began to manifest. As Christians, our non response to prophetic words and warnings are just as critical as our responses. They need to be carefully considered, biblically confirmed, or discarded with great care. In fact, some words should never be left unattended to. Because in them are life and death.
Rejecting and dismissing words aimed to work havoc rather than salvation and peace, is clearing your shelves of a potential hazard, in the days to come. I don’t see where confusion over a prophetic word warrants it “to be put on the shelf’.” The biblical model, straight forward exposes false prophesy. That means it is examined until it is either received or rejected. Seeking the Lord on it may take some time; but, it is important to recall it before prophetic council where it will be judged, like the scripture says, “let the others [prophets] stand and judge.” That is why it is important to take personal words, spoken over us in private, before others. In fact, I often gather a few people around when I find that I have a word for someone to stand and judge, let the prophets do so, let them stand and judge; weigh it, wait on the Spirit; in Holy reverence towards the Father, regarding His prophetic ministry. I do the same when interpreting dreams through e-mail. We have a little disclaimer that instructs the dreamer, to take their interpretation before a group of trusted counsel.
Though I never personally had to deal with a direct attack against a prophetic warning like that one played out in this dream- I have had many words that were quite lovely, not responded to. I’ve seen the results of that many times, finding that when you explain to people what the alternative is in some of these cases, they are more apt to respond. A couple years ago the lord showed me a vision of the Lion of Judah walking through the flames of revival as the high praises of God were sung and praised by a worship team on the platform of a spirit filled church. I delivered a prophetic word that went along with the vision, to the pastor who happily received the word, but in the weeks and months to follow he cut short worship, and often quenched it. I’m not saying he did this deliberately. But, normally when a move of God is prophesied to come OUT OF a certain thing one would explore that avenue of entry. If you believed the word is come from heaven. This is another reason we are told not to despise the word of prophesy, don’t disregard them, there’s purpose in that. With in a year the worship team I saw leading the High praises of God into that revival, lost key members who were there in the vision when it happened. We need to act on the word, not counter act. I’ve seen the aftermath of those who scoffed and discarded prophetic warning, whom at the same time were steeped in a very strong prophetic culture. Incredibly, I remember praying a hedge of protection over such a group and heard snickering because a Christian comedian had made light of the hedge prayer. Well, we had seen that comedian and heard the same thing too, and his point about it was funny; but, in practice there is nothing to discard about walls. In fact, at that time we were under a commission of GOD to: REPAIR THE BREACH IN THE WALL. Sadly, those who decided to mock the concept of THE HEDGE, and other prophetic warnings began to suffer a series of attacks; a few of them tragic, that are associated with broken walls, their hedge of protection was down. Even while we were executing these unheeded warnings I remember a real strange moment when a small child had disappeared in the group and was found outside in the street, because all the doors had been left open. Even after a scary object lesson such as that, our REPAIR THE BREACH IN THE WALL messages and prayers went mocked. Darker days ensued.
Satan comes not but to kill, steal, and destroy. No WALLS, NO WATCHMAN. A few years ago I comforted a prophet weeping in shame because of the rebuke they received for warning another prophet of an attack against their spouse, in the area of illness. That warning was not received, and with in two years that minister’s spouse was dead of cancer, in the prime of life. When a watchman sees a dust cloud rising on the horizon, and doesn’t report it then what does the bible tell us about that prophet? Rest assured my brothers and sisters, at times you WILL BE CALLED A FOOL. But, the fool is the one who FEARS an evil report, attacks the watchman, and thinks ignoring it will make it go away. Even declaring there is no dust cloud on the horizon, it is only a little rain! When, in fact, it is a treacherous gang of murderous thieves. How about humbling ourselves and calling it what it is? Let’s respond by have a meeting in the war room with the Lord of Hosts for wisdom, knowledge, and understanding; for strategy, and approach. Rather than a heretical butterfly and pixy dust response that will turn it all into a bunny farm. While satan’s hordes advance.
We have nothing to fear with our Father’s warnings. In them, we will win all our battles, when we inquire of HIM who teaches us, who trains our hands for battle, and our fingers for war.
We should not be so quick to react to a word of prophecy, less we miss handle the word of truth, misdirect it, and bring judgement on ourselves. Of course, it is the nature of crows to steal the seed. Crows will be crows. But, the household of faith is held to a higher standard. Whether, we are in meeting at home, in our living rooms, at a cook-out with our neighbors; or, moving about the internet market place- in the days to come remarkable warnings and prophetic words are going to reach beyond the four walls of our Christian gathering places. It may be, at times, where social media will be used to quickly move groups of people out of harms way, when multiple prophets post the same thing at the same time. Can you imagine a culture of ‘prophetic seed thieving’ pecking away at words of prophecy in such a time as this, counteracting true watchmen ministry?
(By the way, there are those who call themselves such a thing, that may have dreams and visions, habitually voicing them outside of biblical protocol, whom have no understanding of the true purpose of the seer. Thinking that predicting the future is the sum of prophetic ministry.) They are not watchman, but watch dogs; barking at anything that moves, with no clear and distinct intelligible words. There is a difference between yapping canines, and true WATCHMEN OF THE NIGHT.
God is restoring the Spirit of the fear of the Lord, with exploits and demonstrations of HIS power that will accomplish their intended purpose.
He will confirm His word with signs and wonders following. Is not “an event foretold” a sign? So then what was the word, or message that sign confirms? Every sign has a message that it is punctuating. If there is no message attached to a sign, then the ministry is a loud attention gatherer, like clanging brass cymbals, but has no substance ascribed to it. These kind “draw men unto themselves” who chase dreams, visions, and supernatural anomalies. A very spooky spiritual form of CLOUDS WITH NO RAIN. Too many ministries seek to validate their call using signs, forgetting they are there to confirm a true message from heaven. In fact, a ministry void of teaching and preaching the word of God, relying heavily on manifestations only, is one molecule away from the lying signs and wonders of the end times. Eventually, that ministry will succumb to fanaticism, and foolishness, that diverts attention away from the cross and sets it squarely on man. let us live soberly, as we rightly handle the word of truth, discerning the age we live in.
It happened that as we were going to the place of prayer, a slave-girl having a spirit of divination met us, who was bringing her masters much profit by fortune-telling. Following after Paul and us, she kept crying out, saying, “These men are bond-servants of the Most High God, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.” She continued doing this for many days. But Paul was greatly annoyed, and turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her!” And it came out at that very moment.…
… these men revile the things which they do not understand; and the things which they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed. Woe to them! For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay they have rushed headlong into the error of Balaam, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.…These are the men who are hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, caring for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, doubly dead, uprooted; wild waves of the sea, casting up their own shame like foam; wandering stars, for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever. It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones. Amen and Amen.
The other side of the coin.
A side note to the dream that appears to have a message with in the message- Often the Lord will give us dreams and visions that have many facets of truth. I see this in the dream as well. Here is another more simple warning in regard to the open and unguarded shaft. We live in a world where the love of money is much like that elevator shaft. Getting in it is suppose to be a ride up or a ride down, as markets go. Not a plunge to our deaths. Not a lure to disaster, that is why we put our trust in Christ and our treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not corrupt. To be lured into this world system over the love of money is imminent disaster, in these end times.
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Sub-titled: How Not to Become A False Prophet- The Spirit Life Perspectives series is located on the NeWine Pouring and REMNANT Nation Radio Pod-cast. Recently, we were sponsored with a pro-rating for The Remnant Nation program and as a result, we are being carried on iHeartRadio.
How we see from where we stand. In order for us to see the Kingdom of God through the eyes of the SPIRIT, we need to be standing at the proper vantage point. That vantage point is from the wall of a house built upon a foundation, whose Chief Cornerstone is the Lord Jesus Christ.
Perfectly, placed with in the walls are living stones; masterfully prepared, divinely appointed, and carefully positioned.
The stone you are has a vantage point in that wall whose chief cornerstone is Christ. This is from where we all need to stand in our SEEING. The first in a series of SPIRIT LIFE PERSPECTIVES as Living Stones.
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Spirit Life II -In Your Seeing. Teaching regarding the prophetic gift.
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… And though she is heavy with armor she rides like the wind. And though she is heavy with armor she summits the MOUNTAIN of THE LORD. Join our podcast with dee barnes as she gives an audio reading of NeWine Pouring’s most popular prophetic word regarding end time outpourings. Short teaching segment, and prayer ministry for the sick.
In the last days the MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD’S Temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and peoples will stream to it “… there He will teach us HIS ways, so that we may Walk HIS paths” Micah 4:1-5
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Several weeks ago the Lord opened my eyes once again to the Red River Nation as it passed before me in a vision, this time I saw my self wearing peasant clothes, I looked up and saw the Lord instruct the reins of a horse to be handed to me. I was then handed banners, one for my clan, a banner for my tribe, and the crimson banner depicting the Holy Race, that banner was raised up to join the others above the procession, creating a crimson red river from the eagles eye view. Jesus looked to me and said, “You have nothing because you wanted nothing, other than this that has been in your heart all these many years.” At that my eyes were open to the fact that I was in this mobile assembly coursing through the land, moving through out all nations. We are in it already, I believe, and where ever it takes us it will sometimes be seen and sometimes un seen, as if to move in and out of the shadows of the great rock mountain. For many the reports of it, will be described as just the rumblings of thunder, many others will here the voice of the Lord compelling them to come, they will know where to meet and join her, intuitively. It is my conviction to be aware that it is a moving breathing assembly of the gathered, in the spirit, after the order of Melchizedek, who was a type and shadow of Jesus of whom we are (his body) – as Christ is so are we in the earth! From where does this procession come? Where is it going? We will only “fully know” when we get there, then shall we fully understand. This is my take on it, so far, and I know that in this life we look through it all as it were, through stained and tinted glass, and we should always remember:
John 3:8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”
This word has come through many different venues but the jest of it is- A camp-out in the tradition of the festival of booths, shall manifest momentarily, the assembly, out from the shadows of the big rock mountain. A well spring of glory shall flood the land and carry the remnant like a river current, out to sea, and a great thrust of gathering will spill out into all nations from this place among many, this high place, this mountain-top of seeking, a place from where rivers are made.
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This article is a teaching on the ministry and power of the Holy Spirit, and shares true life experiences of “When devils cry out”, in a ministry, that has brought the full Gospel of Jesus Christ into Jails, prisons, and forgotten people, on the street, and in institutions where oppression often thrives.
This is one area that many have overlooked in ministry, and the reason why many are frustrated, knowing the promise of God regarding healing and restoration, but not seeing lasting results in their prayers, for those with illnesses, and addictions. Is their a demon behind every tree, as the saying goes? You decide, but remember “THEY” would rather you didn’t believe they existed at all. When Devils Cry Out.